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What did I say to my spouse yesterday? We’d like much less stuff in our home.

What did I do right now? Purchased one other digicam. 

Do I want one other digicam? No, we have now a home filled with them, from these hundred-year-old folding fashions with the fabric bellows to right now’s high-tech digital workhorses.

So why did I purchase one other digicam? To expertise a legendary piece of kit that at one level sat completely past my means. 

I’ve all the time shot Canon cameras as a result of that’s what my dad has all the time used. Like father, like son, proper? 

In 1971, Canon launched its first actual skilled mannequin. It was merely referred to as the F-1, and this all-manual brick of a digicam was designed to go wherever beneath any circumstances, actually from the Olympics to the battlefield.

Canon rated the digicam’s shutter for 100,000 cycles and stated that you would use it in circumstances south of 0 levels. One other promise to professional photographers: It might keep in manufacturing unchanged for 10 years, so no worries about gear going outdated. And what did Canon do after these 10 years? It launched an identical but completely up to date F-1 that, once more, would stay in manufacturing for a decade.

This mannequin carried an acceptable value, too. In 1973, a brand new Honda Civic stickered round $2000. On the similar time, you would purchase a Canon F-1 with a brief lens for about $600–that’s greater than $3600 in right now’s {dollars}. Even after I began capturing within the ’80s, such gear fell nicely past my funds. 

Quick-forward to right now, and movie images is hip once more. We also have a customized movie lab not 5 minutes from my home, and we don’t even stay in an actual metropolis (sorry not sorry). 

Currently, I’ve been enthusiastic about getting again into movie. I’ve all of those outdated cameras–together with the Canon A-1 that acquired me by means of college–so why not expertise them as soon as once more? 

I admit, digital makes an excessive amount of sense. You are taking the picture after which instantly add it for the world to see. No wait, no expense. 

However it’s not fairly the identical. Perhaps it’s the distinction between clicking an icon to play an audio file versus firing up the turntable. 

I not too long ago questioned, how a lot would it not value to return in time and expertise Canon’s legend? How do these 10,000 elements come collectively to provide that satisfying click on?

Effectively, as my eBay historical past reveals, now you can purchase an F-1 for $217.44 with free transport. It’s not an ideal instance–the vendor, one of many greatest names in used gear, labels its situation as Cut price: “70 to 79 p.c of unique situation and priced to promote.”

That’s positive. I like issues which have a narrative to inform. Once more, it’s all in regards to the expertise. 

Why right now’s curiosity in older vehicles–older as in from the ’80s and ’90s? The expertise. Perhaps you wished one again within the day and couldn’t afford it, or maybe you’d wish to see what it’s like to show again the clock a bit. 

Fortuitously, these days gave us among the coolest vehicles. We have been there, and I’ve been fortunate to personal among the day’s best hits–machines sporting mannequin designations like Si, SE-R and GTI. 

Are these vehicles quick by right now’s requirements? No, not likely. A brand new minivan is probably going faster. Something EV would destroy them. 

However these older vehicles have an attraction that goes past numbers. They’re easy, enjoyable and lightweight on their toes as they’re not laden with an excessive amount of further gear. Skinny roof pillars and low beltlines ship ethereal cockpits. Wanting again, even one thing that appeared mundane on the time, like a flip-up-headlight Accord, now has a retro coolness because of the identical traits. 

And I completely get it. The whole lot sitting in our storage might be tied along with a easy theme: vehicles I couldn’t have again within the day. 

My recommendation for these disenchanted by the rising costs in that section: You’ll discover one thing–perhaps not your unicorn, however one thing that you simply’ll be proud to personal and present. Or perhaps will probably be one thing from the cut price bin that has a number of tales to inform. Ping me on-line and we will buy groceries collectively. 

Don’t fear, although, I’m not there bidding in opposition to you. I’ve ticked many of the bins off my checklist–though, considering again, I by no means did get my dream automotive from my college days, Mazda’s then-new 323 GTX. It supplied all-wheel drive, turbo energy and all of the rally cred. On the time, although, I may solely afford a pair of Chuck Taylors and, ultimately, a used Accord. 

[Mazda 323 GTX | Vintage Views]

Unsure if I’ll hearth up the time machine and seek for that little Mazda. I believe that ship has sailed, as right now’s examples carry costs nicely exterior my consolation zone for an impulse buy. However, sometime, it could be fulfilling to simply expertise one.


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I might like to attempt an Eagle Talon TSI.  Turbocharged, 5 pace, all wheel drive.  They have been the scourge of the IMSA Radial Sedan sequence.  They have been pressured to run decrease enhance and narrower tires.  Not even 1st gen M3’s may sustain!




11/10/21 1:04 p.m.

Because you touched on it; the image under is from a glass plate adverse, taken by my Nice Grandfather, Clatonia Doritcos, he was the city photographer in Newton NJ. The younger woman on the left is his daughter (my Grandmother) Josephine Dorticos. We don’t know who the man is.  Digital just isn’t movie……………I whole get why you’d wish to get again into it.

In reply to David S. Wallens :

There’s a GTX on the market on the interwebs proper now that even features a handful of spare transmissions…


You are nicely conscious of my emotions almost about 90s Mazda hatches, I am going to take the extra mundane BG chassis 323, swap in a BP, add a BP26 manifold and delicate enhance. Now if solely I used to be nonetheless in a position to get a few of these Jim Pierce entrance controll arms and subframes…


Id nonetheless love a structurally and mechanically sound NX2000 or Volvo 240, however I might have to clear the deck of different tasks first. We’ll seemingly be onto reminiscing about publish Y2K vehicles by the point that occurs. 




11/10/21 1:09 p.m.

So on the subjects of needs; the 356 is now out, I’ve just about given up on 911s as nicely. As I’ve posted elsewhere I’ll go together with a 914 or 912E.

Within the meantime I consoled myself with a one in every of Mongoose’s new retro BMX bikes, as a result of at $450 how may I say no.

As for vehicles I am considering a late 80s or early 90s automotive would be the option to go for cheapskates like me. There’s nonetheless stuff obtainable for 10K-ish.

I am nonetheless fairly younger, so it is laborious to say which vehicles from my youth I would like probably the most, however I can mirror on capturing with movie. 

A month or two in the past I took the plunge into movie images and acquired a Pentax K1000. In all probability top-of-the-line selections I’ve made shortly.

Took a household trip to Los Angeles a number of weeks in the past, and though I’ve loads of digital pics on my cellphone, having bodily images to indicate my child when she will get older is one thing particular.

I like movie.  Even black and white.   

My dad said they visited the graveyards each Sunday after Catholic Mass.  A lot they took pics.  Determine within the 1940’s?

No nostalgia for movie right here — glad to be rid of it.

I do love my FD although!  They have been new proper after I graduated from faculty and began searching for my first automotive, however I could not afford one and thought 2-seaters have been “too impractical” at that time anyway.

Why can we purchase them?  Pop up headlights is a part of it. 🙂


My son shoots with a Purple. I’ve no functionality to narrate to a $60,000 digicam. 

However he additionally shoots with an old style Polaroid. 

He can edit audio on the very best finish tools, however nonetheless spins vinyl. 

Is not this a good time we live in??

I simply need Godzilla. Is that an excessive amount of to ask?




11/10/21 5:49 p.m.

All of the vehicles I might like to purchase now are WAY too costly, like a Mk4 Supra Turbo 6MT, or an NSX, or a 928 GTS MT, and so forth, and so forth…



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11/10/21 6:50 p.m.

In 1995, I had the possibility to purchase a 71 Challenger RT ragtop. All unique, B1 blue, no rust, 383 w/ pistol grip. I bear in mind it being a PIA to shift! However I simply purchased my first home and could not swing one other mortgage. Man wished 16.5k…

Drawback as I see it’s that it’s worthwhile to take 10 pictures to get a great one, and 100 to get an excellent one. That prices greater than I am keen to spend (Though I not too long ago paid about $300 to restore my Minolta SRT102.)

The opposite draw back is you do not know in case you acquired the image you wished till per week later.


IMO this differs from vinyl or an outdated automotive, the place the expertise is fast

twentyover stated:

The opposite draw back is you do not know in case you acquired the image you wished till per week later.

You will get the outcomes sooner in case you do your personal creating, however that is a complete ‘nother pastime.

Small replace:

Like two weeks in the past, I went to a photograph gear swap meet hosted by the digicam store in Orlando. It was principally older individuals promoting to youthful people–lots of movie cameras plus some darkroom gear. Felt nostalgic to select up some steel movie creating reels. 

I used to be simply trying, although. 🙂




11/11/21 12:14 p.m.

David S. Wallens stated:

I used to be simply trying, although. 🙂

Yeah like the identical means our canines are trying once we are cooking.

In reply to Colin Wooden :

though I’ve loads of digital pics on my cellphone, having bodily images to indicate my child when she will get older is one thing particular.

You are doing an excellent factor there. I’ve all the time liked trying by means of my mother and father’ bins and albums filled with bodily household images with them.

Heck, regardless that I have never used a movie digicam since highschool, I nonetheless ship my favourite digital images off for printing on occasion and put them in an album I acquired at Goodwill. Flipping by means of that album and passing it round at a gathering simply makes reliving the nice instances simpler than making an attempt to select by means of images on a cellphone.


In reply to Hungary Invoice (Discussion board Supporter) :

That is the sauce, and it has a a lot stronger transmission and heart differential. 

My dad handed a coupe years in the past and I now have near 14,000 slides to undergo.  They return to the late 40s.  It’s a full household historical past and a historical past of my dad. His final roll of slide movie was shot about 6 months earlier than he handed.  He stored good data. Every slide has the date and who/the place it was taken.  I’m now digitizing them and getting prints made from some for the remainder of the household.   We’re so fortunate he did this and did it with a non digital medium.  

Hungary Invoice (Discussion board Supporter) stated:




Not the primary 323 GTX that somebody has despatched my means after studying that column. Actually, I haven’t got the hots for one as a lot as I did again then. We’ll see what the long run brings. 

Hey David:


Vehicles and cameras, oh my.  I’ve had some very cool vehicles means again in time – first new automotive was a ’66 GT 350, purchased in November ’66 and acquired an unbelievable deal.  I’ve had three Lotus, fifteen Alfas, the checklist goes on.  There are a number of vehicles I want I had again – particularly the GT 350 I rallied and the Lotus 11 I raced, however today I discover the outdated vehicles I might wish to have have been ones I fully ignored again then.  Two examples – Volvo 123 GT and Studebaker Lark Wagonaire.  The Volvo is so understated that it is cool, and the Stude has a roof that rolls ahead – how cool is that!  I do nonetheless lust after a Lotus Elan +2 that I noticed on the manufacturing unit after I picked up my ’68 Europa.  I’ve by no means owned a VW, however I believe a Squareback could be actually enjoyable to have – a mini-Nomad.  Goals.


Cameras – I began capturing professionally with a Pentax Spotmatic.  I upgraded to a Canon F1 after I realized that Canon supported its shooters at F1 races with loaner lenses.  That was all it took to get me to improve, though I stored the Takumar 400 mm lens to make use of with my F1.  I grew additional into movie images after I purchased a Bronica, then one other one.  Really received awards with my medium format images.  Then I acquired employed to drive and write about different individuals’s actually cool vehicles, and I needed to go digital – nonetheless with Canon, a 5D MK II.  My movie cameras simply sat and sat till one of the revered used digicam sellers got here as much as a lodge close to me and acquired all my movie cameras and lenses besides one – my Rolleiflex.  I believe I have to get some medium format movie, clear that digicam, and shoot with it once more.  The 5D is a superb digicam and it does the job I want it to do, however I do not really feel like I am creating with it.  However the Rolleiflex – that is an actual digicam, identical to the Volvo, Studebaker, and Elan +2 are actual vehicles.


Ciao, my Pal.

Mike Hemsley

I believe for me it is the analog facet since right now’s vehicles are so slowed down with security stuff and digital options. As loopy because it appears, I miss the Geo Metro hatch I had with no energy steering and a 1 liter 3 cylinder. Factor weighed 1800 lbs soaking weight. 

In all probability 15 years in the past at this level however I had an opportunity to purchase a 84 MR2 for $1500 bucks. I in the end handed on it. Doh.




2/20/22 5:29 p.m.

jerel77494 stated:

I might like to attempt an Eagle Talon TSI.  Turbocharged, 5 pace, all wheel drive.  They have been the scourge of the IMSA Radial Sedan sequence.  They have been pressured to run decrease enhance and narrower tires.  Not even 1st gen M3’s may sustain!

They’re numerous enjoyable. I might personal one other one. 




2/20/22 10:00 p.m.

This choice was fairly straightforward for me, I acquired into 15-20 yr outdated vehicles 15-20 years in the past, and by no means seemed again. Between the NB and Mk4, may have just about loved them totally free at this level, silly market making these issues costly now.


I am solely griping as a result of I would not thoughts just a little selection, however I am in the identical boat as a fan of 80’s / 90’s Japanese vehicles, just about all of it’s overpriced now. My first Supra value me $1000… and was CLEAN. That very same automotive could be $5k minimal now.

Mndsm stated:

jerel77494 stated:

I might like to attempt an Eagle Talon TSI.  Turbocharged, 5 pace, all wheel drive.  They have been the scourge of the IMSA Radial Sedan sequence.  They have been pressured to run decrease enhance and narrower tires.  Not even 1st gen M3’s may sustain!

They’re numerous enjoyable. I might personal one other one. 

I noticed one competing right now at Tremendous Lab Battle at COTA, cannot bear in mind the final time I noticed one on the road.


I discovered my “need” from HS a number of years again….proper across the similar time one other article on Grassroots was featured – 1989 Toyota Supra Turbo.  I have to admit it was a bit disappointing after I first acquired it (somebody stated one thing about not assembly your heros?) however making incremental “updates” for the previous couple of years has made it an attention-grabbing drive.  My spouse, who wasn’t thrilled about it, now prefers to journey in it when it is simply the 2 of us.  

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